So, reading the big book o rules (Thanks Dave!)... Not sure what AT support I should be bringing for my Parachute Rifle Company... I can massively overload with Bazooka teams, but I suspect that will not work nearly so well as it did in 1st edition... So, I can bring Glider AT Guns (57mm) or M10 GMCs... The Tank Destroyer Doctrine (forget if the rule is still called that) with the security teams starting on the board and the TDs just appearing from ambush looks like one of those "when it works, awesome... If it doesn't work, you die"... And since looking over the German and Soviet lists it does look like I'd best be able to stop tanks.
Artillery, yes... I have some set up now and I'll be setting up more... Now, the way I was taught was that the Infantry holds and calls down Artillery. Dealing with the tanks is hard without Air Support, and why I;m concerned... Air Support seems really random, and Artillery just isn't going to stop a tank horde in time...
:-) Probably time to start painting again... Been hitting the weights more recently, and just not as much time painting.... But I am looking at the "Army Painter" stuff to knock out a few armies quickly... Grey Knights, etc...
Monday, April 2, 2012
Friday, March 30, 2012
1500 Point North Africa, Parachute Rifle Company
So... I happen to have a full Platoon of M3 Lee tanks... And since that's where my Grandfather started out, I'd really like to use them... So a mid war Airborne company with M3 support... Might work :-)... Yeah, probably not, the M3 wasn't a particularly great tank, and Mid War, the US Infantry wasn't exactly at their top form yet...
So, from the North Africa book:
Company Command 30
Parachute Rifle Platoon (2 rifle squads, 1 mortar squad, Bazooka team) 255
Parachute Rifle Platoon (2 squads, Mortar, etc) 225
Parachute Machine-Gun Platoon (4 gun teams) 100
Parachute Field Artillery Btty (6 guns) 210
Parachute Mortar Platoon (4 gun teams) 130
Field Artillery Btty (105's, 4 guns) 165
Tank Platoon (4 M3 Mediums, 1 w/ long 75) 360
1485 points... And the best of both worlds :-)... Lots of Artillery. Starting to read over the rules (side note, GREAT book, well worth the money), and Artillery might be fairly random, but the US rules are still pretty good for their guns... Random, but Airborne operations are always a gamble, even in "training". So, I'm fairly comfortable taking big risks... Yes, my luck will run out at times, but the lads are Fearless Vets, and we'll fight it out to the bitter end either way :-)... And since most wargames reward decisive, aggressive play, I get to play Airborne the way we were trained to fight... Might need more Bazooka Teams though...
It'll be a starting point for me, guessing I'll get stomped at first and will have to tweak it out some... At least it gives me options to play Mid War should that be where the games are... Most of what I WANT to play is Late War, but that does limit things a bit :-)
So, from the North Africa book:
Company Command 30
Parachute Rifle Platoon (2 rifle squads, 1 mortar squad, Bazooka team) 255
Parachute Rifle Platoon (2 squads, Mortar, etc) 225
Parachute Machine-Gun Platoon (4 gun teams) 100
Parachute Field Artillery Btty (6 guns) 210
Parachute Mortar Platoon (4 gun teams) 130
Field Artillery Btty (105's, 4 guns) 165
Tank Platoon (4 M3 Mediums, 1 w/ long 75) 360
1485 points... And the best of both worlds :-)... Lots of Artillery. Starting to read over the rules (side note, GREAT book, well worth the money), and Artillery might be fairly random, but the US rules are still pretty good for their guns... Random, but Airborne operations are always a gamble, even in "training". So, I'm fairly comfortable taking big risks... Yes, my luck will run out at times, but the lads are Fearless Vets, and we'll fight it out to the bitter end either way :-)... And since most wargames reward decisive, aggressive play, I get to play Airborne the way we were trained to fight... Might need more Bazooka Teams though...
It'll be a starting point for me, guessing I'll get stomped at first and will have to tweak it out some... At least it gives me options to play Mid War should that be where the games are... Most of what I WANT to play is Late War, but that does limit things a bit :-)
Wednesday, March 28, 2012
1500 point FoW?
Well, not sure the "real" point level things get played at, guessing 2000, but I'll start with a 1500:
From the "D-1" book, 82nd Airborne being one of the places I ended up briefly when I played Army...
From the "D-1" book, 82nd Airborne being one of the places I ended up briefly when I played Army...
1 Company HQ (+3 Bazooka Teams) 95
Parachute Rifle Platoon (3 Rifle Squads) 365
Parachute Rifle Platoon (3 Rifle Squads) 365
Parachute Machine-Gun Platoon (2 sections + 2 Bazooka Teams)
240
Parachute Mortar Platoon (2 Sections + 2 Bazooka Teams) 190
Glider Light Anti-Tank Platoon (3 Gun Sections, 57mm
upgrade, 3 Bazooka Teams) 120
Glider Field Artillery Battery (3 Gun Sections) 120
Kind of min/maxing adding Glider stuff into the Parachute company I guess, but no real point bringing a 37mm AT gun to a late war fight I'd be guessing... Loads of Bazooka Teams, and if they work as they did in 1st ed, kind of a nasty surprise for tanks getting ready to try and roll over my lads... A little Artillery to keep things honest, a few Mortar tubes in there as well for smoke... Mind, I have precisely zero experience with 3rd ed FoW, so this is just the way I would go having been trained to do this in "real life"... I'll have to add in an Engineer Platoon just because that's where I started, and I'll want to use them... No clue if they have any in game use, but assuming there are mines and the like...
Tuesday, March 27, 2012
Digging more stuff out...
So, here's a bit of what I'm digging out...
'course my Airborne stuff is not in the v3 book at all... A touch annoying, but I'll just use the "D-1" or "Stars and Stripes" book I guess...
On the 40K side, guess my Praetorians will continue, Vet squad, the boys in blue will hit the table to support the death chickens (Scout Sentinels)... Shoot them lots being the order of the day...
'course my Airborne stuff is not in the v3 book at all... A touch annoying, but I'll just use the "D-1" or "Stars and Stripes" book I guess...
On the 40K side, guess my Praetorians will continue, Vet squad, the boys in blue will hit the table to support the death chickens (Scout Sentinels)... Shoot them lots being the order of the day...
Monday, March 26, 2012
400 point League list...
So, looks like I'll play my old Praetorian IG...
Infantry Platoon:
LT and 4 SW troopers, either flamers or GL's in a Chimera
2 Infantry Squads (MG, GL, 2 AC)
Sentinel Squadron (or 2 separate ones) 1 AC, 1 Multi laser
Hydra (+heavy stubber)
400 points of "We shoot things... A Lot"... On the plus side, it all fits nicely into one of the cargo racks on the bike (those ancient Armory figure cases fit perfectly) :-) Up to 3 "Troop" sections in objective games, a crapton of Str 6/7 shots potentially... But I still think it would die trivially to a lot of things locally... Whatever, it will be amusing to field 4 vehicles... I could field a Tech Engineer by dropping one vehicle... Might be even more amusing overall... If the Techmarines/Tech Engineers were IC's like the Grey Knight version, I would take them in almost every list... But it is really hard to justify, especially since none of my "Marine" armies can field the new and improved "Thudd Gun"... We'll see what happens, and how quickly I get wiped off the table :-)
Infantry Platoon:
LT and 4 SW troopers, either flamers or GL's in a Chimera
2 Infantry Squads (MG, GL, 2 AC)
Sentinel Squadron (or 2 separate ones) 1 AC, 1 Multi laser
Hydra (+heavy stubber)
400 points of "We shoot things... A Lot"... On the plus side, it all fits nicely into one of the cargo racks on the bike (those ancient Armory figure cases fit perfectly) :-) Up to 3 "Troop" sections in objective games, a crapton of Str 6/7 shots potentially... But I still think it would die trivially to a lot of things locally... Whatever, it will be amusing to field 4 vehicles... I could field a Tech Engineer by dropping one vehicle... Might be even more amusing overall... If the Techmarines/Tech Engineers were IC's like the Grey Knight version, I would take them in almost every list... But it is really hard to justify, especially since none of my "Marine" armies can field the new and improved "Thudd Gun"... We'll see what happens, and how quickly I get wiped off the table :-)
Sunday, March 25, 2012
So, what next?
So, new league starts Monday... Not sure what I'll play. Silly loyalty, I'll play because Dave is pack... So, IG or Fleshtearers? Maybe Grey Knights, but with the limited nature of the 400 point games, I cannot actually field 80% of the stuff in the book, and none of the things I normally use...Deathwing is out for the same reason, no 2+ saves allowed... Wolves would be good, but ultimately boring I think... At least IG I can bring weird ancient things no one has seen before... And more importantly I can fit it on the motorcycle at this level... :-) Rationalize it away I guess...
15mm stuff is shaping up nicely, and I do think I'll scrape together the $60 or so to pick up the 3rd ed FoW books... Not entirely sure I'll ever actually play the game, at least locally... But, at the very least I'll have the mental exercise of building armies and the like... Wonder how historically accurate my builds will be? Guessing fairly... But then I also know that the TOE is not very accurate with respect to what the lads are actually bringing to the field with them... For instance, I carried my M-16/203, 2 pistols, a shotgun, a LAW, and a wide variety of knives, etc... By the TOE, it was the M-16/203... And I was only slightly more heavily armed than the rest of the lads... Not sure I ever saw a "Line Dog" actually JUST have the issued weapons... Reserve guys or non- Combat Arms, yes... And with my big collection of WWII weapons and the like, hell, I was issued some :-)... My 1911 was manufactured in 1935, and it is the most reliable weapon I've ever used, I trust it with my life and those of my family without hesitation... Cue the Obi Wan Kenobi voice with the line about the more elegant weapon from a more civilized time...
Looking like a good week for the bike :-) One thing I got last year I REALLY am glad I picked up... Might be time for me to look into getting a bigger one in the longer term...
15mm stuff is shaping up nicely, and I do think I'll scrape together the $60 or so to pick up the 3rd ed FoW books... Not entirely sure I'll ever actually play the game, at least locally... But, at the very least I'll have the mental exercise of building armies and the like... Wonder how historically accurate my builds will be? Guessing fairly... But then I also know that the TOE is not very accurate with respect to what the lads are actually bringing to the field with them... For instance, I carried my M-16/203, 2 pistols, a shotgun, a LAW, and a wide variety of knives, etc... By the TOE, it was the M-16/203... And I was only slightly more heavily armed than the rest of the lads... Not sure I ever saw a "Line Dog" actually JUST have the issued weapons... Reserve guys or non- Combat Arms, yes... And with my big collection of WWII weapons and the like, hell, I was issued some :-)... My 1911 was manufactured in 1935, and it is the most reliable weapon I've ever used, I trust it with my life and those of my family without hesitation... Cue the Obi Wan Kenobi voice with the line about the more elegant weapon from a more civilized time...
Looking like a good week for the bike :-) One thing I got last year I REALLY am glad I picked up... Might be time for me to look into getting a bigger one in the longer term...
Friday, March 23, 2012
15mm?
Mkay, dug up some more of the FoW troops... Anyone out there know how close the points in the 2nd ed (I think) books like "D-1" are? I think I can actually field an Airborne company... Line platoons, Weapons platoons, loads of Bazooka Teams, an Artillery Platoon, etc... I have a Platoon of Lees as well, but not really connected to my Airborne stuff... My Grandfather on Dad's side commanded a unit of them during the War, wound up in Armored Cav, so I'll likely snag a few of the Greyhounds, etc... Ironically, a Great Uncle was an Engineer... Dad was Armored Cav, I started as an Engineer before doing the really silly "Airborne" stuff...
So, need to get some "Dark Green" if Dave has it (Vallejo) to paint the lads up in the 1943 Uniforms... Most of the operations involving my old Divisions (82nd and 3AD) were "late war", so... Probably some of the Army Painter sprays since I'll probably want to quickly finish my Grey Knights, some random "Barbarian" type armies for other game systems... Who knows, maybe WFB will make a comeback some day... That and I guess I need the 3rd ed FoW book...
But in essence, not even sure if I'll play in the upcoming league... Maybe after the weekend I'll lighten up, but 40K is just getting really stale and boring to me at the moment... Not a problem with Dave H's league, I'm really just bored with the same things over and over... By now I've seen pretty much all of it, and even my quest to try to use everything in all of the Codexes I actually play has more or less been done. And by now there really aren't many surprises. Sadly, I can usually predict with a great deal of accuracy what the game plays out as by looking at lists and books... So, I guess I am waiting on the next edition.
So, need to get some "Dark Green" if Dave has it (Vallejo) to paint the lads up in the 1943 Uniforms... Most of the operations involving my old Divisions (82nd and 3AD) were "late war", so... Probably some of the Army Painter sprays since I'll probably want to quickly finish my Grey Knights, some random "Barbarian" type armies for other game systems... Who knows, maybe WFB will make a comeback some day... That and I guess I need the 3rd ed FoW book...
But in essence, not even sure if I'll play in the upcoming league... Maybe after the weekend I'll lighten up, but 40K is just getting really stale and boring to me at the moment... Not a problem with Dave H's league, I'm really just bored with the same things over and over... By now I've seen pretty much all of it, and even my quest to try to use everything in all of the Codexes I actually play has more or less been done. And by now there really aren't many surprises. Sadly, I can usually predict with a great deal of accuracy what the game plays out as by looking at lists and books... So, I guess I am waiting on the next edition.
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