Going to be a strange one... 1500 point list, but the first round is 500 points from this list, next round at 1000 points then third and fourth at 1500 points... So running my Crimson Fists, the 500 is going to suck in so many ways... 1000 and 1500 at least I have an army I can field a coherent force, the major things I simply cannot deal with are things like heavy flier armies...
Hordes might present a slight challenge, but the dual Thunderfire cannons are insanely powerful against them... Especially with my ability to target specific things like command squads, specific models... Dark Eldar are also going to be hard, but I don't think Mike will be there with his vehicle swarm and insane number of saves...
Bringing:
Pedro Kantor
Sternguard Squad (10, HF, 7 Combi Melta, 2 Combi Plasma, SGT w/LC, Drop Pod w/beacon)
Sternguard Squad (10, HF, 6 Combi Melta, 3 Combi Plasma, Drop Pod)
Scout Squad (10, Cloaks, HB, 9 Sniper Rifles)
Scout Squad (10, CCW, Shotguns maybe?)
Thunderfire Cannon
Thunderfire Cannon
Aegis Line w/ Quad Gun
Comes in at 1500 points, might swap the quad for the Las Cannon... Just the raw killing power might be nice, total lack of long ranged AT firepower. Also missing the FT's ability to just MOVE. Jump Troops, Drop Pods, Fast Vehicles, I could move across the field so very quickly, and that was hard for a lot of people to deal with. This army shoots. Shoots a LOT, and fairly well... And has a potential for 8 Scoring squads, not including the Heavies in that one mission... Stubborn too, so more or less you have to kill them all to get them off of an objective. Really liking the army so far, just worried about fliers as I have no real answer yet...
Guess we'll see how it turns out, need to finish up some detail work and the like, but pretty ready to go...
Friday, November 30, 2012
Tuesday, November 20, 2012
A Draw @ 1500 points :-)
Well, played against Mike and his Dark Eldar... We played 1500 points, I brought my list with the 2 Scout squads (1 Sniper, 1 CCW/Pistol) and 2 Sternguard Squads in Drop Pods backed by 2 Thunderfire Cannons and a Whirlwind... He brought a fully Mechanized force with Warriors/Zombies/whatever the basic guys are with the Homunculus in Venoms (3-4?) and 2-3 of the Elite squads in Raiders with 4 Blasters/squad and 2 of the Heavys with the 1 DL/2 Disintegrators... Oh, and a Void Bomber...
He got first turn, killed my 2 Cannon and stunned my WW... But Techmarines survived denying him "First Blood"... My Sternguard dropped in, DID kill one of his 2 heavy "Screw you Marines" tanks, but failed to off the second with a series of amazing 5++ saves :-)... Running theme for me this game, my Melta simply bounced a lot... So, First Blood to me, and that was what got me the Draw. Game ended on Turn 6 with my single surviving Scout SGT holding one Objective, one of his Warrior Squads holding one, and a bunch of dead bodies piled around the 3rd... Both lost Warlords, and he killed the sole surviving Sternguard in his own DZ to deny me Linebreaker... Of course my Whirlwind failed to kill his 2 troops in the open to deny that to him :-)... So, a VERY bloody draw. Good game though...
He got first turn, killed my 2 Cannon and stunned my WW... But Techmarines survived denying him "First Blood"... My Sternguard dropped in, DID kill one of his 2 heavy "Screw you Marines" tanks, but failed to off the second with a series of amazing 5++ saves :-)... Running theme for me this game, my Melta simply bounced a lot... So, First Blood to me, and that was what got me the Draw. Game ended on Turn 6 with my single surviving Scout SGT holding one Objective, one of his Warrior Squads holding one, and a bunch of dead bodies piled around the 3rd... Both lost Warlords, and he killed the sole surviving Sternguard in his own DZ to deny me Linebreaker... Of course my Whirlwind failed to kill his 2 troops in the open to deny that to him :-)... So, a VERY bloody draw. Good game though...
Sunday, November 18, 2012
Crimson Fists at 1500 points...
So, the league is finally up to 1500 points...
Been painting a bit, and testing the camera, such as it is on the Nexus 7, so here are a few of the lads:
So, fielding:
Pedro Kantor
Scout Squad (9 Snipers, 1 HB)
Scout Squad (9 CCW/Pistol, 1 HB)
Sternguard Squad (Drop Pod, HF, 9 Combi Weapons, SGT w/ LC)
Sternguard Squad (Drop Pod, HF, 9 Combi Weapons, SGT w/ Melta Bomb)
Thunderfire Cannon
And either Storm Talon Gunship and Attack Bike or...
A second Thunderfire Cannon and Whirlwind maybe.... Just the sheer amount of shooting for the Heavy option could be bad for an Infantry based Army... The Flier? Maybe, have it escort one of the Scouts who flank, hope to catch enemy fliers in the flank... So, depends on who I end up facing I guess... 2 Ruins that give me 3+ cover saves could be annoyingly powerful :-) Guess I'll bring them both...
Been painting a bit, and testing the camera, such as it is on the Nexus 7, so here are a few of the lads:
So, fielding:
Pedro Kantor
Scout Squad (9 Snipers, 1 HB)
Scout Squad (9 CCW/Pistol, 1 HB)
Sternguard Squad (Drop Pod, HF, 9 Combi Weapons, SGT w/ LC)
Sternguard Squad (Drop Pod, HF, 9 Combi Weapons, SGT w/ Melta Bomb)
Thunderfire Cannon
And either Storm Talon Gunship and Attack Bike or...
A second Thunderfire Cannon and Whirlwind maybe.... Just the sheer amount of shooting for the Heavy option could be bad for an Infantry based Army... The Flier? Maybe, have it escort one of the Scouts who flank, hope to catch enemy fliers in the flank... So, depends on who I end up facing I guess... 2 Ruins that give me 3+ cover saves could be annoyingly powerful :-) Guess I'll bring them both...
Saturday, November 10, 2012
Stand-in for a Storm Talon
Well, I guess I will give the Escort Fighter a shot this week... Found an old Naboo Fighter from the Star Wars series... Might be "close enough" to be used as a Storm Talon with the spare flight base I have. Not ideal, I think I'll find a different fighter...
But in any case, I do think I'll fly it up against the other fliers... With the Skyhammer missiles, I'm looking at BS 4 and TL AC for the almost guaranteed 4 hits at Str 6 Rending and 3 Str 7 shots. Hoping to go second of course so I can roll in and catch their aircraft in the air. I will probably flank a Scout squad to give it a decent shot at catching something in the side. Still, 155 points for a "Maybe it will get lucky and take down a flier"? Comparing it to my IG fliers, I have to say it looks bad on paper. But if the other side does not bring AAA or a flier, it might have a chance to actually throw a bunch of wounds out there...
So the 1500 point force is:
Pedro Kantor
Sternguard Squad (10, HF, 9 Combi Weapons, Drop Pod)
Sternguard Squad (10, HF, 9 Combi Weapons, Drop Pod)
Scouts (Camo Cloaks, Snipers, HB)
Scouts (CCW/BP, a few Shotguns, HB)
Thunderfire Cannon
Storm Talon
And 40 more points... I do have a Lightning Claw on one of the SG squads SGT for a bit more kick with the Squad escorting the Chapter Master, could drop that I guess and... Well, likely an attack bike to fill out the points... But plays as a classic Hammer and Anvil with me holding a fortified ruin and bringing down 20 Sternguard to hammer whatever gets in the way. Not much lives through THAT many Meltas dropping right on top of them... So, guess we'll see if I can deal with fliers and hordes. Guess my "horde" plan is really to use the "No cover Save" weapons I have and just selectively target the leaders... 2-3 IG hordes, and taking their Platoon and Company leadership tends to deal a crushing blow to them. After the leaders are dead, mostly just cleanup. :-) If things go well that is... Against other things? Well, shoot lots, hope for the best...
But in any case, I do think I'll fly it up against the other fliers... With the Skyhammer missiles, I'm looking at BS 4 and TL AC for the almost guaranteed 4 hits at Str 6 Rending and 3 Str 7 shots. Hoping to go second of course so I can roll in and catch their aircraft in the air. I will probably flank a Scout squad to give it a decent shot at catching something in the side. Still, 155 points for a "Maybe it will get lucky and take down a flier"? Comparing it to my IG fliers, I have to say it looks bad on paper. But if the other side does not bring AAA or a flier, it might have a chance to actually throw a bunch of wounds out there...
So the 1500 point force is:
Pedro Kantor
Sternguard Squad (10, HF, 9 Combi Weapons, Drop Pod)
Sternguard Squad (10, HF, 9 Combi Weapons, Drop Pod)
Scouts (Camo Cloaks, Snipers, HB)
Scouts (CCW/BP, a few Shotguns, HB)
Thunderfire Cannon
Storm Talon
And 40 more points... I do have a Lightning Claw on one of the SG squads SGT for a bit more kick with the Squad escorting the Chapter Master, could drop that I guess and... Well, likely an attack bike to fill out the points... But plays as a classic Hammer and Anvil with me holding a fortified ruin and bringing down 20 Sternguard to hammer whatever gets in the way. Not much lives through THAT many Meltas dropping right on top of them... So, guess we'll see if I can deal with fliers and hordes. Guess my "horde" plan is really to use the "No cover Save" weapons I have and just selectively target the leaders... 2-3 IG hordes, and taking their Platoon and Company leadership tends to deal a crushing blow to them. After the leaders are dead, mostly just cleanup. :-) If things go well that is... Against other things? Well, shoot lots, hope for the best...
Thursday, November 8, 2012
Moving to 1500 points with my Crimson Fists
I think I have my 1000 point list done, looking ahead to 1500 points. Picked up the "Imperial Blue" from Vallejo at the Gopher since my last one finally ran out... Making more Combi Weapons for my Sternguard, and converting more of the lads over... NEED to get off my ass and finish up my second Drop Pod. So 2 Sternguard Squads, and 2 Scout Squads and I am liking the Tech-marine with Thunderfire Cannon... Last game it was probably the MVP, 4 blasts at Str 6 every turn? Can opt for the No Cover Save shots should I face one of the IG hordes... And Scouts with the 2+ cover save? Yes, that will work...
Need to decide if I will Proxy in a "Storm Talon"... I am thinking it will be dealing with a few fliers... That or I bring out a DN and ? Or a Librarian I guess... Irking looking at the Storm Talon and comparing it to the Valkyrie/Vendetta or the Necron Fliers... 'Course, at least they HAVE a bloody flier unlike my Wolves/DA, etc... Thinking I will run one of my Scout Squads as a Flanker and have the Talon escort them... Play the Air Superiority fighter to cover for my lads... REALLY concerned about the Helldrake of the Chaos Marines. I simply have no real defense against that monster. Shoot at it lots and hope for 6's is NOT going to work. So, guess I need to bring something to engage it directly in the air... Would rather have the Vendetta with the 3 TL Las Cannon of course :-) But, better I think than the Aegis line with Quad Gun... Concerned that people will have figured out how to deal with that, then I am SOL...
Need to decide if I will Proxy in a "Storm Talon"... I am thinking it will be dealing with a few fliers... That or I bring out a DN and ? Or a Librarian I guess... Irking looking at the Storm Talon and comparing it to the Valkyrie/Vendetta or the Necron Fliers... 'Course, at least they HAVE a bloody flier unlike my Wolves/DA, etc... Thinking I will run one of my Scout Squads as a Flanker and have the Talon escort them... Play the Air Superiority fighter to cover for my lads... REALLY concerned about the Helldrake of the Chaos Marines. I simply have no real defense against that monster. Shoot at it lots and hope for 6's is NOT going to work. So, guess I need to bring something to engage it directly in the air... Would rather have the Vendetta with the 3 TL Las Cannon of course :-) But, better I think than the Aegis line with Quad Gun... Concerned that people will have figured out how to deal with that, then I am SOL...
Sunday, November 4, 2012
1000 points, Crimson Fists
So, a small army moving to 1000 points. Will be playing:
Chapter Master Pedro Kantor
Sternguard (10, 1 HF, 4 combi plasma, 5 Combi Melta, drop pod)
Sternguard (5, 3 Combi Melta, 2 Combi Plasma, Drop Pod)
Scout Squad (5, 4 Snipers 1 HB)
Scout Squad (HB, 4 CCW/Pistol)
Thunderfire Cannon w/ Tech Marine
So a REALLY small Infantry based army, and I'll be using my Fleshtearers as the big SG squad and one of the Drop Pods... Tactically I am not sure if I will always be using the Drop Pods, I have the option to castle up with the Techmarine, cannon and the 3+ cover save from reinforced ruin. Looking around, it does appear that you will be getting cover saves against Vector Strikes, and the Scouts with cloaks get the 2+ cover save... Everyone (except Pedro) will get +1 HtH attack, and we are all scoring and stubborn... I do think I can get 2-3 Objectives with my lads clumped up a bit even without throwing my Sternguard out there to perform the suicide assault... Though that is always an option :-), and a terrifying one for the folks who play against me... Only a few armies that do not have a high value target there for me to
Since the Sternguard score and the army is all Stubborn, I do think this is a good army for me. Will need more drop pods... So working a trade or two I guess, been on Bartertown since the 90's when it was hosted out of U Kansas :-)... Ordered some more Vallejo "Imperial Blue" and a Pedro Kantor mini from the Gopher, and repainting a bunch of ancient Tac Marines I had already stripped... Making the combi weapons out of Green Stuff, so the process will be a while, but I think it will be ready for the 1500 rounds, or the Tournament on the outside...
Chapter Master Pedro Kantor
Sternguard (10, 1 HF, 4 combi plasma, 5 Combi Melta, drop pod)
Sternguard (5, 3 Combi Melta, 2 Combi Plasma, Drop Pod)
Scout Squad (5, 4 Snipers 1 HB)
Scout Squad (HB, 4 CCW/Pistol)
Thunderfire Cannon w/ Tech Marine
So a REALLY small Infantry based army, and I'll be using my Fleshtearers as the big SG squad and one of the Drop Pods... Tactically I am not sure if I will always be using the Drop Pods, I have the option to castle up with the Techmarine, cannon and the 3+ cover save from reinforced ruin. Looking around, it does appear that you will be getting cover saves against Vector Strikes, and the Scouts with cloaks get the 2+ cover save... Everyone (except Pedro) will get +1 HtH attack, and we are all scoring and stubborn... I do think I can get 2-3 Objectives with my lads clumped up a bit even without throwing my Sternguard out there to perform the suicide assault... Though that is always an option :-), and a terrifying one for the folks who play against me... Only a few armies that do not have a high value target there for me to
Since the Sternguard score and the army is all Stubborn, I do think this is a good army for me. Will need more drop pods... So working a trade or two I guess, been on Bartertown since the 90's when it was hosted out of U Kansas :-)... Ordered some more Vallejo "Imperial Blue" and a Pedro Kantor mini from the Gopher, and repainting a bunch of ancient Tac Marines I had already stripped... Making the combi weapons out of Green Stuff, so the process will be a while, but I think it will be ready for the 1500 rounds, or the Tournament on the outside...
Thursday, November 1, 2012
Crimson Fists :-) It begins...
So, started my Crimson Fists army... Looking like I'll field something like this:
Pedro Kantor
Sternguard Squad (10, combi weapons, etc., drop pod)
Sternguard Squad (5, weapons, drop pod)
Scout Squad (Sniper rifles, Heavy Bolter, 5)
Scout Squad (CCE/Pistol, Heavy Bolter, 5)
Then either a Librarian or Tech Marine with Thunderfire cannon... Leaning toward the cannon :-) Scouts with 2+ cover saves? Yes, please... Every Squad Scores? Mkay, that works for me... Light on bodies, still no real AAA, but at 1000 points I do not think I'll see too many fliers... Yes, Joe's Hell Drake will absolutely destroy this army so spread out and hope for the best... But played him twice so unlikely to play him again this week... Drop pods go in either as suicide squads or empty if needed if I need to hunker down and hold something...
Painting coming along well. Scouts base coated, starting to convert more Sternguard... Still need to assemble a second drop pod... We'll see if I get this done in time...
Pedro Kantor
Sternguard Squad (10, combi weapons, etc., drop pod)
Sternguard Squad (5, weapons, drop pod)
Scout Squad (Sniper rifles, Heavy Bolter, 5)
Scout Squad (CCE/Pistol, Heavy Bolter, 5)
Then either a Librarian or Tech Marine with Thunderfire cannon... Leaning toward the cannon :-) Scouts with 2+ cover saves? Yes, please... Every Squad Scores? Mkay, that works for me... Light on bodies, still no real AAA, but at 1000 points I do not think I'll see too many fliers... Yes, Joe's Hell Drake will absolutely destroy this army so spread out and hope for the best... But played him twice so unlikely to play him again this week... Drop pods go in either as suicide squads or empty if needed if I need to hunker down and hold something...
Painting coming along well. Scouts base coated, starting to convert more Sternguard... Still need to assemble a second drop pod... We'll see if I get this done in time...
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